georgetownhouse ([info]georgetownhouse) wrote,
@ 2007-02-15 22:36:00
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Please help with a door problem
Every interior door (including closets, in the bifold version) in our house looks like this, in white, with the "look and feel of Real Wood Grain!":


Not the worst thing to deal with in the greater scheme of things, but not what we ultimately want, especially since the finish just looks very plastic and cheap to me.

The ideal answer to "what to do" would be to replace them with something wood, preferably salvaged, maybe something I make myself after I stock my workshop with a few tools that I can't carry around in one hand. But realistically that's somewhere down on the 10-year plan - it's just not a priority with everything else we want/need to do, though I'll always be on the lookout for appropriately styled salvaged doors.

In the mean time, I'd like your opinions.

Should we just save us some unnecessary trouble and leave them white?

Or should we paint them? If so, that will be going in to the "next couple of months" plan. In fact, Von is about to go on a painting binge, so it might happen even sooner than that, at least in some rooms.

But what color? I've never had anything other than unpainted wood interior doors, so I have no clue if it looks best to paint doors the wall color, some coordinating/contrasting color, a darker/lighter shade as the same color on the walls, or what. If there's any kind of guideline out there, I'd love to hear about it.

The trim, btw, is all very dark stained [cheapass paint grade] wood, and a project I hope to start in the next year will be to replace all the interior trim, with a combination of stained and painted wood depending on the room and trim we're using.

Ideas and PICTURES are appreciated.

FYI, the house leans heavily towards craftsman/arts & crafts details, and that's the direction we plan to continue to take it with every change we make. So if you have pics of what REAL doors in houses of that style/era look like, please show me those as well!! Thanks!

(oh, and if you're posting anonymously, please tell me who you are, especially if you're a fellow houseblogger!)




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[info]daraqw
2007-02-16 04:22 am UTC (link)
The "real" doors for a house that's a contemporary of yours would most likely be 5-panel solid oak doors. Go looke at the Central Michigan U. collection of Alladin Homes catalogs and you will find a wealth of information and pictures showing how these homes looked and how they were furnished.

Personally, I would probably leave those doors alone unless you could "stain" them to match the woodwork.

You can often get appropriate salvaged doors, windows, trim, etc. at Habitat for Humanity's ReStore.

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[info]georgetownhouse
2007-02-16 06:28 am UTC (link)
Thanks for the link to the Alladin catalogs - I need to make myself STOP LOOKING at them and go to bed!!

I found this in the furnishing catalog: http://clarke.cmich.edu/aladdin/furnishings/aladdin144.htm
(putting it here more as a reference for myself, but also to say that you are an amazing wealth of knowledge and resources - this is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping to find!)

I had been inclined to leave them but the glaring plastic white of them is just starting to grate on me. I can't imagine that they would take a stain... though I could experiment on the inside of one of the doors on the 3rd floor.

I've popped into our closest Habitat store a few times and will definitely be back there many more times, but every time I've been there they've had only new project leftovers and donated stuff that didn't sell, and all the reclaimed stuff was from the 70's/80's. I wish they weren't 45 minutes away, I'd definitely peek in more often.

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[info]100ofme
2007-02-16 04:32 am UTC (link)
I have nothing to say about doors, but I drive by a few houses on my way home from school that have candles in their windows everynight and I thought of you the first time I noticed them. Was just wondering if you guys were still doing that!

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[info]georgetownhouse
2007-02-16 06:28 am UTC (link)
Yes, candles are still burning. ::grin::

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[info]myskat
2007-02-16 05:16 am UTC (link)
I'd say make them the same as the trim color ( usually white) until they are ready to accentuate or compliment shomething.

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[info]georgetownhouse
2007-02-16 06:31 am UTC (link)
See, that's the problem. The trim color right now is cheap pine (often paint grade) stained a dark... walnut maybe? And the trim color when we redo the trim (which will come before replacing the doors) will be another stained wood in most areas (white only in my 3rd floor practice windows, where some caulk and paint will help cover up mistakes!). Right now in the rooms that are painted (and there are about to be more of them) they just stand out like brand new white sneakers worn with a black tux - except they don't look as classy.

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[info]myskat
2007-02-16 07:58 am UTC (link)
ah I see. I's paint them a color similar to the wood or a color that echos the main room walls then, IF you can't stand the white. I hate mid project projects for this very reason!!

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-16 01:16 pm UTC (link)
I am guessing those plastic doors are all pre-hungs- they retail for about 30$. They are truly horrible. I agree what you need are the 5 panel doors, and when you can get them at salvage stores, the chances you can find as many as you need are slim. I just purchased a replacement door (not prehung) for a very crooked rough opening. Many places are reproing 5 panel doors. The cheapest one I could find was paint grade (poplar) for 275$. Of course they make pine and oak- well into the 300's. All are special order. Installing the slab door and rebuilding a door jamb with fresh stock, carving hinges out, installing lock takes the better part of 1 (maybe 2 weekends). So if you can get cheap salvage doors, know that you are in for a LOT of work installing them. Get an expensive prehung reproduction door and it will pop right in. Good luck.

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-16 02:08 pm UTC (link)
Too bad you're not closer to New York, because we have at least 15 doors that we don't need! They're all antique, most of them panel doors, and all but one or two are in darn good shape, save the paint finish. You'd be welcome to them if you were coming to the Westchester County area.

Barring that, you might consider faux painting the doors you already have to match or complement the stained wood trim--basically you'd be faux-wood-graining them using paint, and then sealing it with varnish. This was often done in Victorian houses, believe it or not, even though it sounds like such a modern idea. It's not *quite* as hard as it sounds though it definitely takes a knack. It's also by far the cheapest solution in terms of monetary commitment. Really just costs you your time, some paint & varnish, a couple of feathers and tools, and patience.

Good luck with whatever you decide!
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(Anonymous)
2007-02-17 12:21 am UTC (link)
Since you'll be getting rid of them, why not have fun with them? I'd paint them to match the rooms, maybe even with a contrasting color inside the panels. The worst thing that could happen is they'll need to be painted white again.

My doors (also painted, about half hollow-core cheapies) are painted the color of the rooms, not the trim. They look nice against the trim. But I'm not exactly the most creative painter.

the reluctant remodeler
http://reluctantremodeler.blogspot.com

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-21 03:15 am UTC (link)
There are many homes in my area like yours and all I've been in are the horizontal 5 panel doors. Oak for the earlier ones and later pine. This is what WAS is in my foursquare and in my last house. Fortunately for me, people still throw these doors out to put in what you have now - why??? Almost all of mine are gone, but I have managed to "trash pick" about 10 in the last year for my house. EBAY sometimes will have good deals, but catch is being in the right part of the country - good luck!

- Mike
L Norris Hall House

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[info]carosconundrum
2007-02-22 06:07 pm UTC (link)
I'm late to this party, but I'm about to friend you because your house is so interesting! (We're renovating a 60's era bungalow-much less exciting).

If you can paint the doors, why not do a faux wood? You could pick a base colour to match your trim, and layer on other colours to make it more real since you already have the "classy" wood grain it could be very cool. Check out Debbie Travis' Painted House books. http://www.painted-house.com/

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[info]georgetownhouse
2007-02-22 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the compliment and for friending me!!

The concern I have with a faux wood finish is that it's already got an exaggerated faux wood grain texture. I'm thinking about experimenting on the inside of one of the closet doors with just sanding then applying some wood stain and see how that looks - I have a feeling it will look like crap but I don't have much to lose! Even with painting, the finish is so plastic and it would be impossible to get down into the exaggerated grain that I worry about adherance.

I just wish I had a bunch of $$$ laying around to replace them all!

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[info]carosconundrum
2007-02-22 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Don't we all!? Doors are such a pain!

Let us know how you made out!

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